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This pattern is very similar to the 5 Club Why-Not. And of the same general difficulty. |
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(just as in [[5c Why-Not]]) |
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This is a good pattern to practise heffs in the beginning. |
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The more stable these things are the more they will make it easier for you to learn the pattern - but [[heff]]s in passing patterns combine them with passes, often making them fly more to the front than intended, so a stable 4 club fountain alone won't let you immediately do these passing patterns. |
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just as in [[5 Club Why Not]], you can see a detailed description there! |
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solo: |
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* stable 3 club cascade |
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* [[423]] |
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* [[441]] |
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* "practicing 4 clubs" - i.e. you are at at least trying to learn 4 clubs with doubles and are getting some catches |
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passing with selfs and passes: |
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* At least [[5 club 1-count]] |
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* Probably n-count series. |
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Prelimnary exercises (thrown once as a trick in a different pattern): |
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* throw 441 (heff, heff, zip) into a [[4-count]] or [[5-count]] pattern instead of 3 selfs |
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* throw [[42]] (heff, flip) into a [[3-count]] or 4-count pattern (the flip can be skipped for a hold) |
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* in 5-count, 4-count or 3-count, steal the pattern by throwing repeated heffs like a solo 4 club pattern for 4-5 throws |
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== Companion Pattern == |
== Companion Pattern == |
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[[5 Club Why Not]] - this is of similar difficulty. It's good to practice both patterns. |
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The 5-club Why-Not is probably the more common pattern than its "not-why"-brother. |
The 5-club Why-Not is probably the more common pattern than its "not-why"-brother. |
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The sequence one person has in 5c-Why-Not was |
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"P S z H z" (see on its wiki page), and here it is |
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"P z S z H" (see below). |
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So it's quite similar, just the Pass and the zip before come in reversed order! |
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You can mix up the not-why and the why-not version or with some of the compatible patterns below, for example like this: |
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A throws 5c why-not, B throws 5c not-why |
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A 1|2: P S z H z |
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B 1|1: z H P z S |
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</pre> |
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== Pattern == |
== Pattern == |
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Sequence: |
Sequence: |
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A starts and has straight passes, B has crossing passes. |
A starts and has straight passes, B has crossing passes. |
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<pre> |
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A 1|2: |
A 1|2: P z S z H |
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B |
B 0|2: z H P z S |
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</pre> |
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P=[[pass]] |
P=[[pass]] |
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z=[[zip]] |
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H=[[heff]] |
H=[[heff]] |
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A maybe more intuitive start for the pattern could be that B starts one beat later, that is, they leave out the first pass and therefore start with one club in each hand and react with a heff on the incoming pass. |
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== Compatible Patterns == |
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These also are the same as in [[5 Club Why Not]], you can see a detailed description there! |
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Especially, the 5 Club Why Not (86227, as mentioned above) matches. |
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Another pattern that matches and should feel quite similar is the siteswap 72862, where one passer has the sequence "P z S z H", so also same throws but mixed up! |
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Latest revision as of 13:57, 6 November 2025
← Back to Why-Not Family ←
This pattern is very similar to the 5 Club Why-Not. And of the same general difficulty.
Patterns to do Before This One
just as in 5 Club Why Not, you can see a detailed description there!
Companion Pattern
5 Club Why Not - this is of similar difficulty. It's good to practice both patterns. The 5-club Why-Not is probably the more common pattern than its "not-why"-brother.
The sequence one person has in 5c-Why-Not was "P S z H z" (see on its wiki page), and here it is "P z S z H" (see below). So it's quite similar, just the Pass and the zip before come in reversed order!
You can mix up the not-why and the why-not version or with some of the compatible patterns below, for example like this:
A throws 5c why-not, B throws 5c not-why
A 1|2: P S z H z B 1|1: z H P z S
Pattern
Sequence: A starts and has straight passes, B has crossing passes.
A 1|2: P z S z H B 0|2: z H P z S
P=pass
z=zip
H=heff
A maybe more intuitive start for the pattern could be that B starts one beat later, that is, they leave out the first pass and therefore start with one club in each hand and react with a heff on the incoming pass.
Compatible Patterns
These also are the same as in 5 Club Why Not, you can see a detailed description there!
Especially, the 5 Club Why Not (86227, as mentioned above) matches.
Another pattern that matches and should feel quite similar is the siteswap 72862, where one passer has the sequence "P z S z H", so also same throws but mixed up!
