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This pattern is very similar to the 5 Club Why-Not. And of the same general difficulty.

== Patterns to do Before This One ==
== Patterns to do Before This One ==


just as in [[5 Club Why Not]] :)
just as in [[5 Club Why Not]], you can see a detailed description there!


== Companion Pattern ==
== Companion Pattern ==
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The sequence one person has in 5c-Why-Not was
The sequence one person has in 5c-Why-Not was
"P S Z H Z" (see on its wiki page), and here it is
"P S z H z" (see on its wiki page), and here it is
"P H Z Z S" (see below).
"P z S z H" (see below).
So it's quite similar, just mixed up!
So it's quite similar, just the Pass and the zip before come in reversed order!


You can mix up the not-why and the why-not version or with some of the compatible patterns below, for example like this:

A throws 5c why-not, B throws 5c not-why
<pre>
A 1|2: P S z H z
B 1|1: z H P z S
</pre>
== Pattern ==
== Pattern ==


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Sequence:
Sequence:
A starts and has straight passes, B has crossing passes.
A starts and has straight passes, B has crossing passes.
<pre>
<pre>
A 1|2: P H z z S
A 1|2: P z S z H
B 0|2: z S P H z
B 0|2: z H P z S
</pre>
</pre>


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H=[[heff]]
H=[[heff]]


B can start one beat later, which will maybe feel more intuitive. Then they have one club in each hand in the beginning and react on the incoming pass doing the self.
A maybe more intuitive start for the pattern could be that B starts one beat later, that is, they leave out the first pass and therefore start with one club in each hand and react with a heff on the incoming pass.

== Compatible Patterns ==

These also are the same as in [[5 Club Why Not]], you can see a detailed description there!

Especially, the 5 Club Why Not (86227, as mentioned above) matches.

Another pattern that matches and should feel quite similar is the siteswap 72862, where one passer has the sequence "P z S z H", so also same throws but mixed up!

Latest revision as of 13:57, 6 November 2025

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This pattern is very similar to the 5 Club Why-Not. And of the same general difficulty.

Patterns to do Before This One

just as in 5 Club Why Not, you can see a detailed description there!

Companion Pattern

5 Club Why Not - this is of similar difficulty. It's good to practice both patterns. The 5-club Why-Not is probably the more common pattern than its "not-why"-brother.

The sequence one person has in 5c-Why-Not was "P S z H z" (see on its wiki page), and here it is "P z S z H" (see below). So it's quite similar, just the Pass and the zip before come in reversed order!

You can mix up the not-why and the why-not version or with some of the compatible patterns below, for example like this:

A throws 5c why-not, B throws 5c not-why

A 1|2: P S z H z
B 1|1:  z H P z S

Pattern

Sequence: A starts and has straight passes, B has crossing passes.

A 1|2: P z S z H
B 0|2:  z H P z S

P=pass

z=zip

H=heff

A maybe more intuitive start for the pattern could be that B starts one beat later, that is, they leave out the first pass and therefore start with one club in each hand and react with a heff on the incoming pass.

Compatible Patterns

These also are the same as in 5 Club Why Not, you can see a detailed description there!

Especially, the 5 Club Why Not (86227, as mentioned above) matches.

Another pattern that matches and should feel quite similar is the siteswap 72862, where one passer has the sequence "P z S z H", so also same throws but mixed up!