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This pattern is very similar to the 5 Club Why-Not. And of the same general difficulty.

== Patterns to do Before This One ==
== Patterns to do Before This One ==


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"P S z H z" (see on its wiki page), and here it is
"P S z H z" (see on its wiki page), and here it is
"P z S z H" (see below).
"P z S z H" (see below).
So it's quite similar, just mixed up!
So it's quite similar, just the Pass and the zip before come in reversed order!


You can mix up the not-why and the why-not version or with some of the compatible patterns below, for example like this:

A throws 5c why-not, B throws 5c not-why
<pre>
A 1|2: P S z H z
B 1|1: z H P z S
</pre>
== Pattern ==
== Pattern ==


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<pre>
<pre>
A 1|2: P z S z H
A 1|2: P z S z H
B 1|1: z H P z S
B 0|2: z H P z S
</pre>
</pre>


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H=[[heff]]
H=[[heff]]

A maybe more intuitive start for the pattern could be that B starts one beat later, that is, they leave out the first pass and therefore start with one club in each hand and react with a heff on the incoming pass.

== Compatible Patterns ==

These also are the same as in [[5 Club Why Not]], you can see a detailed description there!

Especially, the 5 Club Why Not (86227, as mentioned above) matches.

Another pattern that matches and should feel quite similar is the siteswap 72862, where one passer has the sequence "P z S z H", so also same throws but mixed up!

Latest revision as of 13:57, 6 November 2025

← Back to Why-Not Family

This pattern is very similar to the 5 Club Why-Not. And of the same general difficulty.

Patterns to do Before This One

just as in 5 Club Why Not, you can see a detailed description there!

Companion Pattern

5 Club Why Not - this is of similar difficulty. It's good to practice both patterns. The 5-club Why-Not is probably the more common pattern than its "not-why"-brother.

The sequence one person has in 5c-Why-Not was "P S z H z" (see on its wiki page), and here it is "P z S z H" (see below). So it's quite similar, just the Pass and the zip before come in reversed order!

You can mix up the not-why and the why-not version or with some of the compatible patterns below, for example like this:

A throws 5c why-not, B throws 5c not-why

A 1|2: P S z H z
B 1|1:  z H P z S

Pattern

Sequence: A starts and has straight passes, B has crossing passes.

A 1|2: P z S z H
B 0|2:  z H P z S

P=pass

z=zip

H=heff

A maybe more intuitive start for the pattern could be that B starts one beat later, that is, they leave out the first pass and therefore start with one club in each hand and react with a heff on the incoming pass.

Compatible Patterns

These also are the same as in 5 Club Why Not, you can see a detailed description there!

Especially, the 5 Club Why Not (86227, as mentioned above) matches.

Another pattern that matches and should feel quite similar is the siteswap 72862, where one passer has the sequence "P z S z H", so also same throws but mixed up!